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Query from: Anantha, India, 02/08/07
Topic: RELIGION      Submitted on: Ammas.com
Subject: Kumara swami, Subrahmanyeswara swami and Naga deva are they same?

Kumara swami, Subrahmanyeswara swami and Naga deva are they same?

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Response from: chandrasekharan krishnamurti,   
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Kumara swami, subrahmanya,skanda, murugan etc., are one and the same deity, being considered as the son of Lord Shiva. Skanda Purana, in Sanskrit, and Kanda Puranam in Tamil by Kachciappa Shivacharya, alongwith Saint Arunagirinathar's Tiruppugazh and other works form the bulk of material of skanda worship. In Northern India, Kartikeya is considered to be a bachelor elder son and in South india, twice-married younger son of Shiva, due to variations in the Slokas, of Shiva purana and skanda Purana over centuries. Adi Shankaracharya introduced the worship of Skanda, to the pre-existing Panchayatana Puja, of worship of Shiva, Vishnu, Surya, Devi, and Ganapati and thus hailed as Shanmata Sthapanacharya, the one who firmly established the six forms of worship, (by codification, modification to vedic rites, and elimination of crude forms and rites that had set in before him). His Subrahmanya Bhujangam, in praise of Skanda, is a masterpiece. Details of Skanda worship can be had from www.kaumaram.org…. As for nagadevata, the serpent motif is common to all forms of worship and is found in Jain & Buddhist literature too. In Karnataka, at Kukke Subrahmanya(near Mangalore) and Ghati Subrahmanya (near Bangalore), formless worship is in vogue, with an anthill (supposed to be the abode of nagadevata), being worshipped with invocation of the Sarpa Suktam commencing with " namo asty sarpebhyo...".So too, in modern temples constructed in Karnataka, mostly by the locals, and those without progeny perform rituals associated with the temples. But in the aforesaid Skanda literature, there is no authority for this. In fact worship for 'sarpa dosha parihara', which as per some schools of astrology is associated with 'naga dosha', because of Rahu/Kethu in one's natal chart, is performed throughout India, in one form or the other, in Shivalayas, and the famous centres for this are, Tirunageswaram, Nagercoil Tiruppamburam,(all in TamilNadu) and Kalahasti (in A.P.).In most of India, Skanda worship is not widespread, and no association at all with the serpent motif.

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Response from: Bindu P,   
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Hi,

Lord Kumara swamy or Lord subramanya swamy are one and the same. He is also called as Muruga at the same time. Just the different names linguistically and a small story behind it. For example, in tamil nadu he is called as subramanya swamy where as in parts of karnataka or andhra He is called as kumara swamy. The Naga deva you are referring to could be the Vasuki, the head of nagas.

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Kukke Subramanya is on the bank of river Dhara. According to Hindu Mythology Lord Kumaraswamy came to this place after killing the demon rulers Taraka, Shoorapadmasura and others in a war; and Lord washed his Shakti Ayudha (a battle-axe in the shape of a bayonet) in this river. From this onwards the river is famous as Kumaradhara. After his battle with the demons Lord Kumaraswamy came to the top of Kumara Parvatha along with his brothers Lord Ganesha, Veerabahu and other aides. He was received by Lord Indra along with other Gods; pleased by the success of the war Indra prayed the Lord to be kind enough to marry his daughter Devasena. This was agreed upon courteously and the marriage took place on the banks of Kumaradhara on 'Margashira Shudda Shashti'. Lord Kumaraswamy also gave darshan to Vasuki the head of nagas, who was making a penance here. Vasuki prayed to the Lord to stay along with him permanently at this place and the Lord with the boon. Subramanya Temple, Kukke. From that time it is believed that the Lord has made his spiritual presence in this shrine along with his wife Devasena and Vasuki. Every year a famous car festival is being held here on 'Margashira Shuddha Shashti' with special poojas to the Lord. http://www.karnatakatourism.com/coa…

http://murugan.org/…

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Response from: S S,   
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Subramanya or Karthikeya is the son of Siva and Parvathi. Other common names of Subramanya are Muruga, Kumara, Skandha, Shanmuga and Guha. Created out of the six sparks from the central, third eye, of Lord Siva, for the special purpose of destroying the demon Soorapadma, Lord Karthikeya has six faces adorned with red vermilion and he rides on a divine peacock. He is supremely intelligent and is the commander of the Deva army. The Vel (spear) is His Divine weapon; it is also regarded as the source of all knowledge and is the dispeller of ignorance. He is the curer of all diseases.

According to legend, Karthikeya explained the esoteric significance of "OM", the Pranava Manthra, to His father, Lord Siva. Krithika and Sashti are auspicious to Karthikeya. Thai Poosam, Panguni Uthiram, Vaikasi Visakam and Kandha Shashti are popular festivals for Subramanuya.

Lord Subramanya has two consorts, Devasena, the celestial princess and daughter of Indra, and Valli, Nambirajan's (a hunter king) daughter. His major shrines are known as "Aaru Padai Veedu' namely Palani, Swami Mala, Thiruthani, Thiruchendur, Pazhamudircholai, and Thiruparankundram. http://www.chennaionline.com/festiv…

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Response from: NEERAJA NAVEEN,   
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Kumara swami, Subrahmanyeswara swami are same.he is the son of lord shiva and the naga deva is the king of all nagas(snakes).

other names of kumaraswamy in tamil are as follows:

Azhagan, Arumugan, Balamurugan, Balasubramanian, Dhandayudhapani, Gangeyan , Guhan, Kartikeyan, Kumaran, Kandan, Kadamban, Kuravimanavaalan, Kathirvelan, Muthukumaran , Mayavan Marugan , Mayuresan, Mayilon , Palaniappan , Padayappan, Rathnavel, Subramanian, Shanmugan, Saravanan , Senniappan, Swaminathan, Skandan , Senthilkumaran, Thangavel, Thagappanswami, Thirumurugan, Vajravel, Vadivelan, Velayudhan, Velan , Velavan, Vetrivel, Veeravel.

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Response from: Geetha Gopakumar,   
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Kumara Swami is another name of subrahmanya Swami. He is the son of Siv-Parvathi. No relation in name/relationship with Naga Deva(God)

Naga Deva means Deva(God)of Naga(snake/Sarpam/Sarpa. But we can see in most of mandirs/Temples where there is Deva/Devi is worshipped as main diety the sub-dietys and Naga Deva and Naga Devi in the surrounding area worshipped also.

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Response from: Kamala Swaminathan,   
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Hi,

Kumara swami and subrahmanyeswara are other names of Lord Muruga. Naga deva is different and it is the God of snake.

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Anantha,

Kartikeya is also known as Subramanya Swamy, Kumara Swamy, Shanmuga.

He represents a person of perfection. He is the war God, the Hindu equivalent of Mars and Ares. He was created by all the Gods to lead the heavenly hosts and destroy the demons. He is the most masculine and fierce of all the Gods. He is also fire, Agni and is very Pitta (fiery) in nature. While Ganesh removes all obstacles, Skanda bestows all spiritual powers, particularly the power of knowledge.

In one hand he carries a spear called sakti which symbolizes the destruction of negative tendencies in humans. With his other hand he always blesses devotees.

The Lord's vehicle is a peacock which is capable of destroying harmful serpents (symbolizing harmful ego and bad desires of people).

(http://www.hindunet.org/god/Gods/ka…)

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Response from: Uma Maheswari,   
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No , Kumaraswamy and Subrahmanya swamy are one and the same. But Naga Deva is Nagaraja Swamy temple deity in Nagarkoil, Tamilnadu

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Response from: Ashok Rajagopalan,   
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Kumara, Skanda,Subramanya, Muruga and many other names are given to the younger son of Shiva, brother of Ganesh. Nagadeva could be another name for Shiva. I may be wrong.

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Response from: Anantha ,   
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Thank you for all responses.. I am struggling to understand how is kumara swami linked to sarpa roopa, we see it as a common practice that peopel worship snakes (couple) being worshipped as subrahmanyeswara in many temples.

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